My son was with his family in Bnei Brak that Shabbos. No question: everyone went to the safe room. During the Gulf War no missiles landed in Bnei Brak. Probably a lot of other places also. I do believe that Rav Chaim was a shomer on Bnei Brak. No proofs. Call me irrational.
I also agree that R Chaim and Torah are shomer when we see it being avoided. But never as a preventative action. And certainly not when one compares how calm one feels vs the rest of Israel.
You have to learn sometime that Ain Somchin Al HaNes may very well applicable Bmakom UzMan shel Hezek USakanah LRabim and exercise some hishtadlus by building and using a safe room
Of course I do not depend on a nes. Chas V’Shalom! We ran to the shelter. In Israel an individual does not build a safe room. The whole apartment has to agree, and it costs a lot of money. Here is my post about it.
This is quite an unfair post - The Bais Din of Bnei Brak and prominent rabbanim publicized immediately a letter stating that claims of a promise made by the Chazon Ish are not accurate, and all citizens should heed diligently the precautionary measures of the Army Home Front command.
Do you think these actions and attitudes are not reflective of wider Charedi society?
In other words, would you think Yated could publish the reverse article, that there's a critical need to do hishtaldus and Torah won't protect from missile danger alone?
They do sociologically. But let's be fair. Yanky Goldhaber is Chareidi, Shlomo Gaisin is Chareidi, and R. Dovid Cohen of Chevron is Chareidi. These people have nothing in common.
I don't criticize "The Chareidim" the same way I don't do "The Blacks" or "The Jews".
My son was with his family in Bnei Brak that Shabbos. No question: everyone went to the safe room. During the Gulf War no missiles landed in Bnei Brak. Probably a lot of other places also. I do believe that Rav Chaim was a shomer on Bnei Brak. No proofs. Call me irrational.
I also agree that R Chaim and Torah are shomer when we see it being avoided. But never as a preventative action. And certainly not when one compares how calm one feels vs the rest of Israel.
You have to learn sometime that Ain Somchin Al HaNes may very well applicable Bmakom UzMan shel Hezek USakanah LRabim and exercise some hishtadlus by building and using a safe room
Of course I do not depend on a nes. Chas V’Shalom! We ran to the shelter. In Israel an individual does not build a safe room. The whole apartment has to agree, and it costs a lot of money. Here is my post about it.
https://open.substack.com/pub/liba/p/the-twelve-step-war?r=fxgvw&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
BH !
Many in the Vais in Brisk in Yerushalayim ignore the sirens….
Bais
This is quite an unfair post - The Bais Din of Bnei Brak and prominent rabbanim publicized immediately a letter stating that claims of a promise made by the Chazon Ish are not accurate, and all citizens should heed diligently the precautionary measures of the Army Home Front command.
Immediately *after* the hit. The right time for that letter? Before.
Obviously you're being hyperbolic, but where do you actually draw the line between acceptable criticism and problematic ones?
Criticisms of actions hashkafos or a specific person vs criticism of a group of people as a whole
Do you think these actions and attitudes are not reflective of wider Charedi society?
In other words, would you think Yated could publish the reverse article, that there's a critical need to do hishtaldus and Torah won't protect from missile danger alone?
They could, sure
One can criticize society. Sure.
But Slifkin criticizes Chareidim.... Not the societal issues
Do Chardiem not make up a society unto themselves? Alternatively, could you give an example of these different types of criticisms?
They do sociologically. But let's be fair. Yanky Goldhaber is Chareidi, Shlomo Gaisin is Chareidi, and R. Dovid Cohen of Chevron is Chareidi. These people have nothing in common.
I don't criticize "The Chareidim" the same way I don't do "The Blacks" or "The Jews".
Why aren't you a raging Slifkin?
The same reason I'm not a raging David Duke