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Ash's avatar

From Yaakov:

Thank you so much to my subscribers and everyone I interacted with on this site! I posted a note shortly before departing explaining that I found maintaining a presence of Substack to be too time-consuming. If anyone would like to finish up (or start!) any conversations, I would be thrilled to hear from you at shalomvaemes@gmail.com.

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>>>Mozart, Galileo, Bayes, Pascal, Darwin, Freud, Jung- there are almost no yeshiva bachurim who can place any of these names.

OK. So what? Aside it from it simply not being true, most Yeshiva bachurim know who Darwin and Freud were even if it were true what difference does it make? Because the writer learned from a very limited subgroup of the non-Jewish world to know and care who those people are it is a fault in anyone else that they don't? I've worked for many years in non-Jewish professional offices. The typical Yeshiva graduate has a lot more depth and a lot more capability for critical thought than the typical non-Jewish college educated professional who I deal with. I've also never met a non-Jew who has such a passionate emuna peshuta in scientists like the writers of these types of letters have.

That is putting aside everything else written here which may have some truth to it but is also heavily exaggerated in how it plays out in the real world. (I sure never heard any Rosh Yeshiva refer to Paterson or Riverdale as the standard bearers of the mesorah of Yeshivas. Such an expert on the Yeshivish world should know that Rav Avremel Ausband seriously considered closing Riverdale down when some bachurim developed some of the symptoms he refers to. In public school no one has eating disorders? ) A guy who believes he grew from having his mind tantalized with fresh perspectives and thought-provoking ideas from the great non-Jewish philosophers should not have such a black and white view of the world

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From Yaakov: Thank you so much to my subscribers and everyone I interacted with on this site! I posted a note shortly before departing explaining that I found maintaining a presence of Substack to be too time-consuming. If anyone would like to finish up (or start!) any conversations, I would be thrilled to hear from you at shalomvaemes@gmail.com.

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Happy's avatar

Yeah, this is just a ridiculous complaint. It just assumes being able to place is Mozart, Galileo, Bayes, Pascal, Darwin, Freud, Jung is more important than being able to place Rav Chaim Ozer, Rav Elijah of Wilna, Rav Chaim of Volozhin, Rav Meir Simcha of Dvinsk, etc. What the heck?

I also had a conversation with him on my substack about transgender, and he believes in it because only because it's the consensus of the medical world. He didn't care about evidence or anything else. Pure, unvarnished emunah peshutah.

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Ash's avatar

That's super ironic because the people at the forefront against the transgender movement are usually the atheist rationalistic types like Michael Shermer or Peter Boghassian.

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khoker's avatar
7dEdited

I'm gonna try to place all these without looking anything up:

"Mozart, Galileo, Bayes, Pascal, Darwin, Freud, Jung"

Mozart and Gailleo - Renaisance so like 1600's

Bayes - Mid 18th century I think

Pascal - Roughly French revolution I think just before maybe?

Darwin - 1850's

Freud - late 19th and early 20th century

Jung - 20th century

"Rav Chaim Ozer, Rav Elijah of Wilna, Rav Chaim of Volozhin, Rav Meir Simcha of Dvinsk"

Rav Chaim Ozer - 1920's and 30's

Rav Elijah of Wilna - time of George Washington 1700's

Rav Chaim of Volozhin - Just after the Gra

Rav Meir Simcha of Dvinsk - 1920's and 1930's

Torah U'mada for the win!

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Wise Sage of Chelm's avatar

Well Reb meir Simcha wasn't around in the 30's but we'll cut you some slack.

What years would you place reb chaim Volozhiner? (without checking)

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khoker's avatar

About Napoleon for years active so right after the Gra.

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khoker's avatar

Apparently the only one I messed up was Mozart because I'm not a music/art fan.

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Yehoshua's avatar

The main theme of his post and comments was that we should have emunah peshutah in the 'experts' (or just in the perfection of mainstream secular culture in general) and if you don't you are a fundamentalist and your position is ridiculous.

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Liba's avatar

Why did Yaacov delete his Substack?

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Ash's avatar

From Yaakov:

Thank you so much to my subscribers and everyone I interacted with on this site! I posted a note shortly before departing explaining that I found maintaining a presence of Substack to be too time-consuming. If anyone would like to finish up (or start!) any conversations, I would be thrilled to hear from you at shalomvaemes@gmail.com.

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Ash's avatar

You'll have to ask him. Maybe because it was a timesink?

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Liba's avatar

Can sooo relate

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